Dont ruin lykan

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    • we have an entire status which is int, just to power up the crimson. body warriors can full vit strong and dex taking the 100% advantage of these three status.

      we have 12 pages of negative feedbacks about the change u thought for lycan. let's think we have a restaurant and our customuers leave 12 pages of negative feebacks, what would u do?

    • jeroenado wrote:

      They respect feedback written in german much more and it's also answered more clearly.
      I don't think so
      Maybe some testers write more, but they can't decide what will go to webzen.

      For example, the 1-Hit Bug from some Bosses (razador) was discussed in the german Forum years ago. But it never reached the head (the person who can actually decide what will go to webzen and what not).
      But here in the english beta forum we got an answer! O_o

      It is also better to write in english, because it is easier for the GF to summarize and send the feedback to Webzen.

      I am from germany but prefer to write in the english section because the chance that the GF will really take the feedback is higher then in the german section.

    • I still don't get why are so many people complaining about the lycans damages and not complaining about dark protection. I mean, yes, we all know crimson wolf soul it's powerfull but at the same time dark protection gives a powerfull resistance. That's the thing, all characters are different, all characters has pros and cons, all caracters has something that make them unique and change that it's all b*****.

    • I hope they hear our complaints, we are not against nerf, nerf to lycan is necessary, but not this way

      many made a lycan, we invested in equipment, alchemy, etc. to have a class that rivals the body warrior and sura mirror in pvm, and in pvp (with claws is one more, slightly off)

      with a little reduction in attack value, remove penetration and reduce bleeding is enough, do not mess with the duration of the skill! 55 seconds is nothing

      lycan without horse is
      trash
      I have faith in you GF

      GOOGLE TRANSLATOR, I'M SORRY

    • Monsaire wrote:

      I hope they hear our complaints, we are not against nerf, nerf to lycan is necessary, but not this way

      many made a lycan, we invested in equipment, alchemy, etc. to have a class that rivals the body warrior and sura mirror in pvm, and in pvp (with claws is one more, slightly off)

      with a little reduction in attack value, remove penetration and reduce bleeding is enough, do not mess with the duration of the skill! 55 seconds is nothing

      lycan without horse is
      trash
      I have faith in you GF

      GOOGLE TRANSLATOR, I'M SORRY
      that to much of a nerf, i already tested even with the damage that lycan was now, against other races with claws e dont do that many damage, its just average damage.. and the skills fail a lot, everyone says that.

    • Apollykan wrote:

      Monsaire wrote:

      I hope they hear our complaints, we are not against nerf, nerf to lycan is necessary, but not this way

      many made a lycan, we invested in equipment, alchemy, etc. to have a class that rivals the body warrior and sura mirror in pvm, and in pvp (with claws is one more, slightly off)

      with a little reduction in attack value, remove penetration and reduce bleeding is enough, do not mess with the duration of the skill! 55 seconds is nothing

      lycan without horse is
      trash
      I have faith in you GF

      GOOGLE TRANSLATOR, I'M SORRY
      that to much of a nerf, i already tested even with the damage that lycan was now, against other races with claws e dont do that many damage, its just average damage.. and the skills fail a lot, everyone says that.
      They didn't nerf the lycan just yet, Crimson wolf is still the same as it used to be - apart from the duration -
      So I just can't see where you're coming from

      Most of the second iteration changes isn't working as intended
      1. Critical hits are just weird, they messed it up somehow !
      2. Archers's spark doesn't make the ninja "hide" as they said it would.
      3. Shaman's buffs are ridiculous and cannot be cast and some skill's animations are off and feels weird.
      4. Some of the long range skills can do 0 damage sometimes :huh:
      Let's just wait for all of that to be fixed so we can give a proper feedback.

    • Calm wrote:

      It's the same, they just changed the duration here.
      Crimson wolf still gives +900 with +150 INT regardless of what the skill description says.
      most people just use 128 int or 140 if they gor excelent alchemy and 900 hundred damage considering the way lykan works i think it necessary, but is more than sura and warrios av on their buffa people are going to conplain, but they dont remember that lykan is a chatacter that without high damage considering that way that lykan does their hits and skills the really need the damage

    • Calm wrote:

      jeroenado wrote:

      Calm wrote:

      It's the same, they just changed the duration here.
      Crimson wolf still gives +900 with +150 INT regardless of what the skill description says.
      that's not what we're talking about, can you please read carefully before reacting on that
      So you're saying that Lycan doesn't need any changing and it's not OP right now ?If so, there's no point on arguing with you. :)
      use a lycan and see if its OP is easy saying that.. try it on pvp against equal characters in termos of defenses and Hh and try to lv up from 75 to 95 in atlantis/grotte whatever you call in your country, lykan is "OP" breaking metin stones and bosses, nothing more.
      is the lykan advantage, every chracter got an advantage

    • I just look on this pages, and I am impress of this thing... people don''t want this change ( or at least that dramatically ). If they don't get this opinions in consideration, this will mean that our opinions are nothing for them. In my opinion, the best balance would be this: reduce crimson from ~960 ( or how much it gives ) to ~750 ( this is the best value ), remove piercing ( not at all, but at least 10% to land one ). Anyway, hope they will not destroy lycan with 55 seconds and 585 attack... this is b*******.

    • jeroenado wrote:


      Why should a character (body warrior), which requires no thinking but just holding spacebar and activation of aura of the sword, have more damage than a weapon sura/lycan who is doing an int buff up in pvm (on mount)? I really want some strong arguments for this. Yeah lycan has better skill damage than a body warrior, but lycans also have a really crap design.

      Here is your answer.;

      The body warriors just have only the attack.
      (Attack and moving speed too but in this case is not important. At highlvl every class can have almost the same attack and moving speed.)

      The weaponry suras and lycans has;

      evade/damage reduction/avoid arrow/defense/reflect/piercing/critical/bleeding on their skills.

      The body warriors not.
      If one body hits lower than a sura and dont have the same or any ammount of defensive ability like lycans and suras have, it means the suras and lycans are much more powerfull in every aspect than bodys.

      If the bodys can hit harder ,without defensive ability maybe can be effective as lycans or suras because they are more tanky classes.

      The warriors has negative side effects on their skills ,the suras and lycans doesnt.

      Thats all.