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Not sure with the critical nerf you'll not profit of your burst anymore.

Yeah cure is better, and OP in the safe zone. But you can go far away if you want and destroy the healers if they come ^^.

@unforgiven Dragon chamans aren't better than melee char (except weapon sura) in pvp, when dragon chamans are worse than melee chars in PVE if they have a buff (everybody has a buff in 2017). Examples: weapon sura is OP in pve, but really bad in pvp, so it's balanced. Healers are bad in pve, OP in pvp, so it's balanced. Archers are baaaad in pve, bad in pvp (at least before this patch), it was NOT balanced at all. I hope it is now (I didn't try). Dragon chamans are BAD in pve (beacause of the su…

@BlueShade Only skill damage boost.

@BlueShade In live servers right now if you go above 100% critical chances, you get nothing for normal attacks BUT you get better chances of criticals for skills. So dragon chamans (and buffed people in general) ALWAYS benefit of critical chances for the skills. We think (but not sure) that with 300% of critical chances (not possible) we have 100% TRUE chances of critical with the skills. I can't try the TRUE chance of critical hit in the BETA because my country's beta is closed for about 2 week…

Dragon chamans are very good on PvM, but ONLY if you compare them with other classes WITHOUT buffs from a dragon chaman. In PvP, sadly they lost their identity with the upgrade of roar, because now it's like a summon lightning. The gameplay of a dragon chaman in pvp will be very similar to the healers', running a lot, too bad for shooting dragon. Yeah, shooting dragon is the 2nd strong AOE of the dragon, but now if you decide to use it, you take a huge risk which is not worthy. This 2nd AOE is t…

Quote from unforgiven: “The chance to deal critical hits with skills were never the face value that you had. We have increased this chance at the moment but this doesn't mean that right now, the chance to deal critical hits with skills is 100%. Regarding testing this, remember that it is chance based so you can have 100 hits where you critted in a row and you can also have the possibility of never critting in 100 skills. ” So do you have the true critical hit rates for skills in PvP if your char…

@LionKing At least try to be logic.

Critical hits in PvP seem to be more constant. We lose the big burst potential but we get a dps boost maybe low but more constant. We still need some values to know if it's worth it or not.

@LionKing If you're sick of 55 farmers then... stop crying and leave the game maybe? Oh wait...

@Rapier So far, in metin2 you have 0% base chance of critical hit. So no it's wrong or the beta update changed the calculation. So far it was: Average damage = the % of critical you have on gear+buffs Skill damage = 1/3 * the % of critical you have on gear+buffs I can't try on the beta so I have no Idea of critical chances. But you should try a comparative test between PvM and PvP for average and skill damage.

I deleted my lv 55 healer just because of this change. I was full PvP bells.

Don't forget that if old players leave the game, even if there are new players, the game will not get resurected. This game is old, it has been downrated a lot of times because it is a HUGE pay 2 win.

We need more than 10% for bells. It's SKILL DAMAGE not AVERAGE DAMAGE boost. WE need a better boost for healing chamans in PVE and a better boost for dragon chamans in PVP. That's a balancing.

Antimagic stones are the perk of Magic classes. And antimagic effect with the pet too.

The main burst perks of dragon chamans (compared to healers) were criticals and roar damages. Because a healer can cast [lightning => summon lightning => lighting] combo with his big casting speed so as to get a big burst right now, which is similar (a bit weaker) to dragon's [shooting => roar => flying talisman] combo in terms of damages. So yes, without criticals at 100% damage dragon chamans are no longer better for burst. But, dragon get a huge range for roar, and that's a big perk for raids…

@Priore Didn't know about the damage reduction with distance. That's strange my dragon friends didn't tell me this. And the damages should be higher with a bell... at least at lv 75- Ex: lv 75 bell has same MAV as lv 70 or lv 65 fan. But it's not true for higher levels. On live servers roar has more damages than summon lightning, so why not here? You should use full INT gear if you want to compare damages. Roar with 0 INT deals absolutly no damage even at perfect level. And shooting dragon has a…

Quote from Priore: “Quote from Ponze: “Dragon roar is now broken. Stronger than summon lightning. ” Ehm... From which planet? ” Range: roar > summon Damage: roar > summon Cooldown: No Idea Casting time: same I Guess? Additionnal effect: roar > summon Dragon shaman are now better than cure at long range.

Dragon roar is now broken. Stronger than summon lightning.

Quote from trblackstar: “Quote from Ponze: “Overall the things I want to be modified in priority: -Critial hit damages in PvP => at least +50% damage -Dragon chaman critical buff should be increased with INT -Bell/fan bonus should be 20%, not 10% this is useless -STR should NOT increase the chaman's skills' damages. -ALL BUFFS should be used without a party. ” good all but u say : ''' ALL BUFFS should be used without a party. ''' my vote : NO yes im selfish.. sorry dude ” Sorry I don't understan…