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Quote from Rodox: “Quote from Salsie: “Gameforge Employee are reading your threads and we forward your feedback ” After almost 2 weeks we didn’t hear anything about our feedback if it was a success or Webzen doesn’t give a f*** about us and will still implement the update in order yo push players away again...Sorry the language but it’s true ” True, why they make us test but we don't get any feedback for our concerns? Looks like this will go live as it is now since in 2 weeks only thing we got i…

No to update 18.4 !!!

First time i have heard about new beta testing i thought they will continue balancing (as they promised) but boy was i wrong? heck they decided to nerf old excellent alchemy but for what purpose? What was the meaning of previews beta where we tested the new elementary bonuses and decided they are good and now you come now and just take it away? Like i said in a previews post, i know for a fact that the new alchemy will hit live no matter what so i wont waste my time debating that, but now new my…

Quote from lmcdoss6: “First of all hi guys, im a player in the Hiperion server from Metin2 PT. lets tal about this new alchemy. There is a 50% chance to improve the class of a stone, so you would need lets say 3 strones for 1 stone of a class above so this make 243 draconis for each stone from the new class. To level up the clarity of the stone you have a 70% chance. if 2 stones= 100% and 3 stones = 50% with this 70% chance we will need around 2.43 stones to increase the clarity. So in the Best …

Quote from Quelin: “@unforgiven who is using fan for pve? Its the same thing, you already know. But thanks for all your replies from the beggining of beta, contrary to other team members who are already responsible for their players/customers but not interested at all. I will wait and see what will happen next. ” Same people who use 2-handed weapons in pve, like nobody. Quote from unforgiven: “@uknowwhoiam, Interestingly enough, I did. And with Dragon Shaman as main. I might not know every singl…

Quote from Rapier: “The part with cure from a healer in the safe zone could be a tricky one indeed. Especially now when the trend is to deal less damage than before (globally speaking). As we were told, one of the points of this ballancing was to give more importance to group play and strategy and stopping the "one-hit-kill-all" strategy adopted by some OP classes like Mental Warriors or Lycans (especially when used in conjunction with the so called "power mount bug"). That means that, after upd…

Quote from unforgiven: “You cannot talk about balancing with a single character on your mind. It has to have all the other characters in mind too. Just because you change VS. Healer, what would happen VS. Warrior? What about VS. Sura? Everything is connected and cannot simple be reduced to "Healer Shaman can beat Dragon Shaman". ” So silly me thought this update is about balancing not adding more gap between characters, i have asked like few weeks ago but i didn't get any answer. If BM is 90% pv…

Quote from unforgiven: “Ok.. So, I grabbed a shaman with an OK gear and tried to scale my damage up, as you usually would do. I have used the same gear to test the damage output from both Shamans. This is without crits. board.beta.metin2.gameforge.co…8a3d351cf327f8f70d1c03394 This is only using Fans so the Healing Shaman had the upper hand. What i did not add here was the DoT from lasting fire that was around 5k damage. If you consider this, Dragon Shamans were dealing more damage than Healing S…

Quote from BlueShade: “I know what you mean as well, @CantBuffU, but still, as @Rapier said, those damage caps were too exaggerated. They've always been way too high, but it definitely got worse when they introduced all of the other power-ups (pets, bone items, sashes and so on, including alchemy, which, however, is pretty useful in PvM as well). This is probably the most important fix concerning the whole balancing process. There was no way you could withstand the attacks of a diversified group…

Quote from LionKing: “Quote from CantBuffU: “Quote from LionKing: “Quote from Ponze: “I deleted my lv 55 healer just because of this change. I was full PvP bells. ” "Lmfao" why did you do this is only on beta not live version.Maybe they will change ” This update will go live in a few weeks doubt it will change, @unforgiven said that he will luck into healer higher dmg and that's the most he can do. It's decided weapon specialization will happen, I guess we should make 20-30 pages of player compl…

Quote from Rapier: “The only reason for which some would mind about that critical in PvP would be that you WILL STILL deal some extra damage with a crit compared to a non crit hit/skill. That is, when fighting, especially now when the global damage has been reduced so we won't see records of 300k+ damages or damages during a fight of 40k+ and things like that, now as I said it might be that some players will try to squeeze as much damage as possible from their curent gear even if that extra is j…

Quote from BlueShade: “Quote from YoTeDoPo: “I have tested the new crits chance on PvP @unforgiven @Comkra @meh, and I can say that with 100% crits on my gear, I needed more than 20 flying talisman to have a critical hit. It is not suposed that all these 20 flying talismans should have been crit? ” Wait. The bonus "chance of dealing critical hits" NEVER worked that way for skills. When you read "100% critical bonus", it is actually related to MELEE hits (in your case, they'd be fan/bell hits). T…

Quote from LionKing: “Quote from Ponze: “I deleted my lv 55 healer just because of this change. I was full PvP bells. ” "Lmfao" why did you do this is only on beta not live version.Maybe they will change ” This update will go live in a few weeks doubt it will change, @unforgiven said that he will luck into healer higher dmg and that's the most he can do. It's decided weapon specialization will happen, I guess we should make 20-30 pages of player complaining until we get a fair weapon specializat…

Quote from Apollykan: “This update is completely non sense... They are going to loose players 1- pve is harder and boring without crit. 2. Really expensive pvp/pve itens lost is value... Equals to really mas players 3. dragon shaman is now more weak 4. Players like to see high damage critics, the game is losing players because of updatea like this. ” This and also i will want to know whats the purpose in pvp for dragon shaman since critical buff won't be viable anymore, in pvm i get it we are as…

Quote from TcatalunyaT: “still waiting to read this: Guys sorry this is all a joke, lets start listening players and make a real balance. ” I'm filling like dragon shaman are GF step child or something, lycan got nerfed they cried a lot and they got higher dmg then initial nerf and higher duration, they cried some more and they got an decent duration of 120 seconds, archers got some more love with the last update for pvm mostly. But about our main problem aka weapon specialization no good news y…

Quote from unforgiven: “No, it will not go back to 300 seconds. ” Personally i don't care any more about buff duration, critical nerf in pvp, lowered critic etc what i want is better dmg for bells or just remove weapon specialization bonus if u can't find a good solutions

Quote from trblackstar: “hey can we bargain +%10 bell bonus = low %19 acceptable for pvm and pvp :l :o ” Not sure about 19%, some calcs needs to be done first, we need same dmg for bell and fan with same weapon lvl/bonuses. But i don't think we will get it @unforgiven stated that we won't get that the best he can do is check into healer higher dmg and maybe lower it iirc.

Quote from layla73: “Shaman Dragon does not need to be balanced but is strong in the injustice of using the bell If the bell is canceled in the premium, it is better for everyone, even if the attack mode is improved by using the bell. What do you think? A bell is made from the beginning and a lot of money is paid. I only have Shaman a dragon fighter and if there is a bell there is no going to continue playing As for the people who have more than one account will leave the dragon only for the BF …

Quote from YoTeDoPo: “Quote from angelyna24: “Nothing changed at reflect skill (useless as well) ” Yes, is worse than before... Is difficult to understand why they nerfed Reflect and Attack Up, they were the worst skills in the game and now they are simple decoration if you want to be surrounded by a yellow aura or have a power ball on your left hand. ” Soon this will go live and all players will find out what they did to dragon shaman buffs, nerfed critics in pvp, 25% critics for team with lowe…

Quote from angelyna24: “That is what i said. This game is not about party, this game is 99% solo and there is no need for a shaman to buff just party members. Is just stupid. Is hard enough to carry a shaman with you and waste of money and time so what is the point to keep doing it? They kill shaman both pvp/pve. Better just lower the overall dmg of monsters and bosses, give characters more def and remove shaman buffs for good, because for me 10-15 % dragon strength and blessing is not enough to…