Pinned Resistance - Feedback needed!

Anayra · Oct 5th 2018, 3:05pm

Hello

There is one more issue that needs your help and feedback: Resistance changes

I know that some of you already tested this and find it too hard (I agree with you) but I need you be more specific.

From what I already saw, there are some maps that uses the same resistance but the difference between damage in similar mobs (around same lvl) is very big.
I would love if you can get me some damage values, which kind of mob, where did you do it (dungeon/map) and which class are you using and how much resistance you have with and without talisman.

Example:
Ochao Temple you can die pretty easy now but if you go to Gautama, it seems almost nothing changed in the damage with the same gear

Try it with and without DSS activated.

Thank you so much for your attention, support and all the help :love:

IRobot · Oct 5th 2018, 3:24pm

Hello i can give You a feedback im a 120 lykan i have 100+9 Helm 15 wind rezistance 20% orks 10 devil,i have 115+9 monster armour WITH 1k pv 15 wind rezistance +50 attack value i have heaven tear bracelet 15 wind rezistance +20 devil . Costume+Hairstyle 15+15 wind rezistance + silver necklance WHO give 10 wind + the silver ores 1+1+2 so let make a Little math .89 % Wind rezistance i have on live server the mobs cant kill me in enchanted forest on beta server WHEN i used a bravery cape i was dead instantly the mobs give to much dmg on beta servar or the rezistance was decreased a lot WITH 89% wind i take 800 dmg per monster WITH ALCHEMI withnout ALCHEMI 2.3k 1.5k dmg really ? Oo i forgot If i put the level 23 shoes wich give You 10% more wind i make 99% wind rezistance i try and suprise i get same dmg WITH/withnout ALCHEMY WHEN i have 89% wind but in reality i have 99%.

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Anayra · Oct 5th 2018, 3:38pm

Can you tell me the damage value you get on live server when you do the same with the bravery cape?
Just to see the difference you have from beta to live server

RabbitRun · Oct 5th 2018, 3:45pm

So it comes down you need to know the difference between beta and live servers? I'll make some tests later this weekend and post it here.

IRobot · Oct 5th 2018, 3:49pm

Anayra wrote:

Can you tell me the damage value you get on live server when you do the same with the bravery cape?
Just to see the difference you have from beta to live server

Hi again yes lady in live server WHEN i use bravey cape i get around 1- 20-50 per monster and rare WITH penetrațio IT five me 200 dmg while in beta server i was dead instantly WHEN i used a bravey cape

Anayra · Oct 5th 2018, 3:56pm

RabbitRun wrote:

So it comes down you need to know the difference between beta and live servers? I'll make some tests later this weekend and post it here.

When something is not right we need to see the differences and test all the classes in different situations

Asking help is not a sign of weakness

I'll be waiting for your feedback

IRobot wrote:

Anayra wrote:

Can you tell me the damage value you get on live server when you do the same with the bravery cape?
Just to see the difference you have from beta to live server

Hi again yes lady in live server WHEN i use bravey cape i get around 1- 20-50 per monster and rare WITH penetrațio IT five me 200 dmg while in beta server i was dead instantly WHEN i used a bravey cape

Thank you for the Lycan feedback, you are the first :thumbsup:

HZZA3 · Oct 5th 2018, 4:22pm

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RAGNAR · Oct 5th 2018, 4:29pm

Hello @Anayra on the live server at the razador dungeon, they do like 1/2/3 or miss with 101% fire resistance and i already test the same set PVM on the beta server and the weaker monsters they do like 400, 500/600 dmg is insane.. i only tested this dungeon so i can't tell you more about the resistances.
btw i'm warrior level 107

Best Regards,

Th3Original · Oct 5th 2018, 4:29pm

Tests Live and Beta Server same time:

Test 1

Map: Temple of Ochao
Resistence: 64% Wind on Both Servers
Items: Same itens and DSS Off
Character: Lycan lv 117
Mobs:
Ochao Soldier on Live Server: 0 Damage
Ochao Soldier on Beta Server: 970-1200 Damage

Test 2

Map: Guatama Cliff
Resistence: 64% Wind on Both Servers
Items: Same items and DSS Off
Character: Lycan Lv 117
Mobs:
Lemures General on Live Server: 0 Damage
Lemures General on Beta Server: 150-325 Damage

Test 3

Map: Guatama Cliff
Resistence: 15% Wind on Both Servers
Items: Same items and DSS Off
Character: Lycan Lv 117
Mobs:
Lemures General on Live Server: 130-260 Damage
Lemures General on Beta Server: 350-500 Damage

Anayra · Oct 5th 2018, 4:48pm

Meley can also be an option for the Fire resistance since there are different mobs there.

@Th3Original
Thank you for the confirmation that I died A LOT for some reason in the Temple

@RAGNAR
Thank you but I need you to be more specific on what you had when you checked that

So far I have feedback from Lycans and Healers :whistling:

loltyler1.com · Oct 5th 2018, 4:59pm

Anayra wrote:

RabbitRun wrote:

So it comes down you need to know the difference between beta and live servers? I'll make some tests later this weekend and post it here.

When something is not right we need to see the differences and test all the classes in different situations Asking help is not a sign of weakness
I'll be waiting for your feedback

IRobot wrote:

Anayra wrote:

Can you tell me the damage value you get on live server when you do the same with the bravery cape?
Just to see the difference you have from beta to live server

Hi again yes lady in live server WHEN i use bravey cape i get around 1- 20-50 per monster and rare WITH penetrațio IT five me 200 dmg while in beta server i was dead instantly WHEN i used a bravey cape

Thank you for the Lycan feedback, you are the first

in this case ofc asking for help is not a sign of weakness,

Anayra · Oct 5th 2018, 5:41pm

Darling, you only have 2 options here:
1 - help and give feedback
2 - don't help, don't give feedback and don't spam the thread

I will start removing posts if they are just spam and not related to the topic.
Thank you for your attention.

Blesenth · Oct 5th 2018, 10:18pm

These are my tests being body warrior on both servers on the resistances without using berserker.

Live server
Map Ochao Temple
With 60% wind, 10 magic resistance and 10% resistance to average, 11% skill resistance. and with 807 defense.
Ochao soldier damage: 30 to 120.
Ochao Wizard: 15 to 115

Map: Enchanted forest
Fighter in tai: 50 to 190.
Fighter in strong tai: 150 to 280.
Warrior in tai: 15 to 120.
Warrior in strong tai: 150 to 240.
Druid in tai: 1 to 50.
Druid in strong tai: 90 to 150.
Healer in tai: 45 to 110.
Healer in strong tai: 110 to 190.
Destroyer in tai:
Normal Blows: 200 to 280
Skill: 1.7k to 1.9k.
Blows at little hp: Normal blows 1100 to 1300.
Skill in low hp: 4400 to 4700
Destroyer in strong tai: 310 to 400.
Skill: 2050 to 2200
Blows in little hp: Normal blows 1400 to 1500
Skill in low hp :. 4700 to 5000.

Server beta with the same setup than before.
Map: Ochao Temple
Ochao soldier damage: 800 to 950.
Wizard ochao: 790 to 900.

Map: Enchanted forest:
Fighter in tai: 900 to 1050.
Fighter in strong tai: 1300 to 1550.
Warrior in tai: 800 to 900.
Warrior in strong tai: 1050 to 1200.
Druid in tai: 680 to 800.
Druid in strong tai: 850 to 1000.
Healer in tai: 750 to 900.
Healer in strong tai: 900 to 1050.
Destroyer in tai: 1100 to 1400.
Skill: 4,6k at 5,1k.
Blows in little hp: Normal blows3,7k to 4k.
Skill in low hp :. 10000 to 11000.
Destroyer in strong tai: 1400 to 1500
Skills: 4,800 to 5,200.
Blows at little hp: Normal blows 3,900 to 4,500.
Skill in low hp :. 10000 to 11000

Opinion: I think the elemental resistances in the beta should be raised between 10% and 15% since the change is very abrupt from one server to another and also the damages are very high in some cases of these tests as destroyers or druids .

loltyler1.com · Oct 6th 2018, 1:52pm

Anayra wrote:

Darling, you only have 2 options here:
1 - help and give feedback
2 - don't help, don't give feedback and don't spam the thread

I will start removing posts if they are just spam and not related to the topic.
Thank you for your attention.

i only said that because your speaking of other things that makes no sense instead of helping the game

Oberyn · Oct 6th 2018, 3:03pm

Anayra wrote:

So far I have feedback from Lycans and Healers

The resistance isn't class related. It's the same problem for every character.

HZZA3 · Oct 6th 2018, 4:19pm

BlueShade · Oct 6th 2018, 8:14pm

@Anayra @Salsie

Greetings, in case you didn't notice, here's my ninja feedback with En-Tais and WIND resistance:

A priori feedback

GamePriv · Oct 6th 2018, 8:53pm

Soluction:
- NO new alchemy !!!!!!! Delete this with beta serwer !!!!!!
- and we check one more time resitance !!!!!

NEW RESISTANCE is not good !!!!

SaddLife · Oct 6th 2018, 10:56pm

Live server 70% i get 150 - 300 dmg in room 21, now i get 1400 with 105% lightning resist.

105%...

is that even activated?

Dont change please or if you change, dont change like this..

Put the shards tradeable too... will kill the metin2

RabbitRun · Oct 7th 2018, 9:44pm

Dear @Anayra,
First of, I'd like to say something.

We all have our bad days and that's only natural. But it was not needed to spit salt on our comments. By that I mean the way you responded to us was way beyond friendly. Yes you may be QA, you may have set up 'rules' to this thread and yes ofcourse everyone has to stick to it, but I almost was not going to give support anymore looking by this kind of behavior. But I decided to go on.

We're going through a rough time here with these updates going on and we want it to be changed asap. So yea you could also just delete the nonsense without replying instead.

Can we still walk through one door? I hope so... Anyways here are my testings, I hope you appreciate it.

Class: Weaponry Sura level 113
All bio's done (92&94 Attack Value)
No pets/systems were activated unless written
All testings were done with Wind Talisman ON (I did not encounter anything different while switching/unequip Talismans)
My basic Alch consists of:

Legendary Diamond Matt +4 (Skill dmg/Skill dmg Res)
Legendary Onyx Matt +4 (Block/Arrow evade)
Legendary Granate Clear +4 (SP/SPAbsorb/SP Recover)
Legendary Saphire Matt +4 (Warrior/Lycan/Sura Def)
Legendary Jadeit Clear +4 (HP Absorb/HP/HP%)
Legendary Ruby Matt +4 (Average dmg/Attack Value/Average dmg Res)

The first row of damages were done on live servers, the second row on beta server.

Wind Resistance:	20%	27%	55%	70%	77%	89%
Ochao Warrior	900-950 1200-1400	650-750 950-1100	400-450 950-1100	50-90 800-900	0 700-800	N.A. 450-500
Ochao General	1200-1300 1400-1500	800-1000 900-1050	450-500 1200-1300	200-250 1100-1200	50-100 1000-1100	N.A. 600-700
En-Tai Warrior	900-1100 1200-1400	750-900 1000-1200	200-250 950-1200	0 900-1000	0 750-900	N.A. 400-600
En-Tai Druid	700-800 850-950 (+15% MA*)	500-600 700-800 (+15% MA*)	320-350 600-700 (+25% MA*)	N.A. 600-650 (+25% MA*)	~25 ~450 (No alch/70% wind/45% MA*)	N.A. 200-250 (+45% MA*)
En-Tai Destroyer**	~4200 ~5400	~3600 ~4600	~1300 ~4600	~450 ~4100	~50 ~3900	N.A. ~2800

* MA = Magic Resistance
** It might sound stupid but sometimes I thought like En-Tai Destroyer is using skills so skill resistance would work aswell. But it doesn't so therefore no furter tests done with Skill Res
BROWN = These tests were done with basic alch ON (remember: this Alch has Set Bonus and they were already calculated)

The most right table shows tests which were done with the newest Mythic Alchemy. That Alch consists 6x Mythic Excellent +6 stones and all of the bonusses were perfectly made. I don't think I need to tell you which bonusses they have.

But yea, you can easily see the difference between the live and beta servers.

It's almost sad that I had to use Blessings of Life on beta server in order to get good testings, damn.

This is just part one of my testings. I will make more tests on different types of mobs at your request. If you can tell me which mobs you'd like to get tests from me, just write it

I had so many troubles while writing it on forums, so I had to code the entire table and therefore it took longer than expected.

Greetings,
RabbitRun

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